suspending for a minute the realisation that it never happened and instead looking at it as a beliver would.... jesus had to endure a painful death, yes.
but he knew that he would only be dead for three days and that afterwards he would get reserected and be able to mind f**k around with those who had put him to death.
and then he would live for ever in a brand new body!
I too have often pondered that...never seemed much like a sacrafice to me either.
One, he knew exactly what was going to happen, and two, if you believe the whole
thing anyway, he knew he would be going back to the cushy life he had before he
took a 33-year planet Earth fishing holiday.
Then of course there is the whole sin argument as well...since Jesus supposedly
died for our sins, then perhaps we ought to be a bit more sinful. Wouldn't want
the whole trip to be wasted.
it's possible to choose people you get to know.
so, in learning about the people around you, it is possible that the things you learn about them could be things you appreciate or, at the very least understand.
many ex-jw's believe they married for other reasons (than love ) such as spiritual qualities or for security.
What's the saying...once for love and once for money?? :)
i always have a difficult time deciding which is the most appropriate section to post non-jw issues in.
when i post in the 'private' section, i get no (or very few) reads.
so, i am posting here in this section.
Pm'd you...
..having been raised in your nutty cult i now have confusion over my world view!.
as i'm a brit we don't go in for therapy.
i tend to see it as some bloke trying to ask about freudian sex associations from my childhood.
Yep, pretty much f*$ed my life up as well. Made my childhood unbearable.
All those wasted hours at those horrid meetings. And the bathroom was always
minging. I hated it so much I used to make myself sick just not to go. I even
contemplated running out in front of a car once on Thursday nite.
my jw grandmother passed away last night after a long battle with alzhemers disease.
she suffered a lot at the end of her life, a shell of who she ounce was, so i am happy she is at peace.
as i mentioned my brother died a short three months ago.
ExJ...
I am pleased that you decided to go. I have a grandmother who has been a JW for over
60 years..she's 87 and still pioneers. I have and always will love her very much..she's is
the kindest person I know and never tries to shove religion down my throat. Like you, I
chose to leave as soon as I could because I could not reconcile the belief system. I will
be in the same quandary as you when she does pass, and I dread it. But I am so glad that
your time went well and everyone behaved. That's what your grandmother would have wanted,
I'm sure. My condolences....
i recieved a letter today and it reads:.
sister jennifer b****,.
we request your presence for a judical hearing.
Tell them you'll come...with your lawyer.
i have to give this talk in a few weeks.
any ideas.
im the most educated person in the hall.
I can't believe how dumb that article sounds suggesting part time work. Doesn't give any suggestions on what to
do once you get too old and sick to clean restroom bathrooms now, does it?
so, at my house we have a christmas party annually.
i told my koolaid drinking bro that i'd tone down the xmas part if he and his family would come and they said 'yes'.. my parents and other siblings are very merrily shocked.. my question to this board is....what should i do or say or not do or say to keep the peace should jw topics arise?.
i guess i'm looking for advice to get them to think without scaring them off.. thanks,.
I'm in the same situation with my parents. I am just going to tone it down, not
make a big deal about it. As long as each party understands the other's stance.
the watchtower endlessly prates on about pagan traditions in popular holidays - while the bible itself is loaded with subtle pagan religious ideas - such as wicked spirits being cast "into tartarus" (a pagan greek place in which the rebels against zeus got imprisoned) or "sacred secret" - a term the apostle paul likes that was adopted from pagan 'mystery' religions.. then we can throw in the reference to being divinely 'called christians' in acts - which uses a pagan term that refers to demonic oracles of the day.. of course, the watchtower has no objection to accumulating millions of pieces of paper that feature occult symbols (any dollar bill!).
in recent years, for good measure, they have added birthdays and thanksgiving to the official banned list, despite the sketchiest justification for doing so.
if birthdays are wrong simply because they figure in two negative accounts, then it makes much more sense to ban dogs as pets because of all the negativity in the bible about them!.
Something you might find amusing...I invited my parents over Christmas Day for dinner but my
mom asked if we could do it Saturday as Sunday was too "Christmasy." So I'm cooking Christmas
dinner on Christmas Eve....I don't get it. And she made a point of telling me that she couldn't be there
until 5:00 because they have a Bethel speaker. Exactly how most people want to spend their
Christmas Eve, I imagine!
a letter to jehovah.
to write a letter to santa.
to write a letter to jehovah.. thank you for promising.
I ate a vertboten birthday cupcake when I was six. I was the best damned cupcake I've ever had.
